Do Not Use Primal Defense

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Hi Adelle,

I've been communicating and coming across more and

more ND's and candida experts that are warning against

Jordan Ruben's Primal Defense. I tried his products

for an extended time (switching from some of the

products I got from Keith Block). I never obtained

any positive results, GI or otherwise, and when the

lung issues began to progress, I wondered if the

primal defense and the HSO's had anything to do with

it.

Eventually, I brushed it off as being coincidental, but

continued to wonder if ingesting dirt organisms was risky.

Then last year when the culture indicated that there was a

"mold" present that comes from the soil...I became very

suspicious of the HSO's I had been taking. I can't prove it

for certain......unless I can find someone to test the

supplement and compare it to my culture. I will never

take them again!

Here is one of the many warnings I've found.

Subject: Primal Defense, HSO probiotics: a warning I

received

Username: robinbobbin

Date: 5/21/2004 3:27:30 PM ( 3 year ago )

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URL:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=278134

Along with a book I ordered called "The IBD Remission

Diet" by Jini Patel Thompson, came a page inserted

later by the author that essentially withdrew her

prior recommendation of Primal Defense. Horrified, I

searched the Internet and could only find glowing

testimonials (most of which eventually stemmed from

the Garden of Life company's own marketing.) I could

find nothing from a scientific or unbiased source. The

inserted warning is frightening. Here it is:

"On Page 108 of the IBD remission diet, I suggest that

readers may want to try a product called Primal

Defense after they've been completely healed for 3-5

months. I learned of this product from numerous

readers who wrote in to let me know how well it's

worked for them. Since I couldn't try the product

myself (I've been pregnant or breastfeeding for four

years and counting,) I questioned numerous respected

naturopaths, microbiology professors and

gastroenterologists for their opinion on the product

and all said it looked fine.

However, since meeting the founder and president of

Natren Inc. (top quality pro-biotic manufacturer,)

Natasha Trenev, I must change my opinion of bacterial

soil organisms. Natasha is a world renowned expert on

microorganisms and maintains one of the largest

research libraries on that topic in the world. She has

sent me an entire CD ROM of articles, research and

clinical data and other scientific studies, (most done

outside of North America,) outlining why it is not

safe to consume bacterial soil organisms (like those

contained in Primal Defense and numerous other

products.)

To summarize the research briefly, soil organisms (SO)

are spore formers, so they make make good competitors

for yeast, fungus and other pathogens. This is why so

many people taking soil organisms will initially

experience very favorable results. However these

spores are are extremely difficult to kill, surviving

sterilants, disinfectants, acceleration forces, heat,

pressure, radiation and many antibiotics. Strong

antibiotics -- like Vancomycin -- can suppress certain

spores. Spores are so persistent in the intestines

that another round of germination may occur after the

the drug is stopped. Soil organisms can also adapt

loose genetic material and incorporate it into their

cellular structure - the ramifications of which are

yet unknown. Various soil organisms can also produce

harmful peptides, affecting hemoglobin in the blood.

It's important to keep in mind that virtually all

antibiotic drugs were were initially developed from

soil organisms and as antibiotics become more potent,

they cause more damage to the host, not just in the

immediate gut environment, but systematically as well.

In the EU (European Union) the use of soil organisms

in animal feed is being stringently controlled and

questioned at this time. There are simply too many

questions and unknowns to sanction the use of soil

organisms for human consumption and one can certainly

cannot qualify them as safe at this time.

I'm very sorry for any confusion this may have caused

you. To be honest, this is the very first time I've

recommended a product that I've not tried and tested

exclusively myself -- I admit I was swayed by so many

good recommendations from readers. Rest assured that I

will not do so again!

My sincerest apologies,

Jini Patel Thompson

July 2003"

February 2008

Client Andrea used Garden of Life products and started

following Ruben's book and recommendations.

She did this to improve health and to stay healthy.

One thing she did not have a problem with was elimination.

She was regular and like clock work.

After using Garden of Life products and his system she

could not eliminate for over two weeks. She came to me

for help. I got her regulated and she is now doing very well.

Another example of why you should not take these inferior products.

C. Adelle Schultz, NC, CMT, MH, RM

Certification:

Nutritional Consultant, Certified Massage Therapist,

Master Herbalist, Reiki Master Level